Originally Posted by hillbillyhunter1

I'll be the first to admit that your description is accurate when it comes to me Dave. I've grown up huntin and fishin all my life but have little experience with handguns. I only own one right now, a ruger mark II .22.

I thank you guys for your advice and have been decidedly talked out of pursuing the judge any further.

Now I'm leaning towards investigating either a springfield or glock subcompact in either .45 acp or .40

I can't really even put my hands on a gun until after April 15. that's why I'm trying to garner some learn-ed opinions now...

thanks again all