Matt I used those same sabots, but I switched over to the Harvester Crushed Rib Sabots. I got the same group as the MMP but loading was alot easier. So maybe before you pay shipped you should see if your local sporting goods store has MMP or Harvester. I assume that your going to start buying just the hornady bullets? Remember that they say XTP MAG I made the mistake once and picked up just XTP, luckly I was able to return them.