Dont quite undestand the problem you guys have with taurus. I presently own a raging bull in 454 and with many many hot loads through it, it still is tight and works great. I've owned multiple taurus 44 mags and work with a couple of guys that own the judge. I've never heard a complaint out of their mouths or anyone else I know that owns a taurus. I worked in a gun shop for 3 years and never had a customer who was not satisfied with the purchase of a taurus pistol. I'm sure there has been some problems out there, but any gun can and will have problems.