it has always been that way for as long as i known as well . I think it is the way the people are . guess thats why i had to move. They complain ,but yet they are the first one to buy an extra doe tag. as well as try to fill it. There is some kind of internal competion among Pa hunters. were they feel they have to be more successful then the other. i know this to be true cause i put up with it most my life, up till 5 years ago when i had enough.... i have watched hunter fist fight over a stand and a property to hunt. O ther hunters make fun of you and call stupid for passing up a young buck. I am sure others will say i am just spouting off, but if this wasnt true to an extent . why are there problems with there deer heards. Cause most pa hunters follow the pgc. like whipped dogs. If the pgc told hunters the moon was made out of blue cheese i think most would believe them. there agenda has always been to kill off deer in most area and restrict a few to the mountain areas......