let put it this way ,if the tree is swaying that much i not staying up in it !! i once went out during late season archery ,(early january) it snow the night before and it was COLD not to mention the wind wasn' t too bad when i left the house , well when i got to my hunting spot the wind had picked up a bit , i figured what the heck i drove all this way i' ll give it a shot , well after climbing up the tree with a climbing tree stand , and getting settled in the wind was howling by now and being up in that tree was like being on an amusment park ride , iturned around and got the heck outta there before the wind knock me and the tree over! i was there less than a half an hour!