I only bowhunt them but when I hunt out of the blind I put my strutting deke at about 10 yards facing directly at the blind. Then I will put my hens 1-3 yards away from the blind kind of feeding away from the strutter. The toms always come inbetween the decoys to square up to the strutter. If gun hunting, I usually place the jake / tom about 20 yards out facing me and the hens inbetween. Usually when gun hunting though I never use decoys, especially in the timber. Where I hunt if you can see them, you can shoot them.