No offence Mike but I definately don't claim to be an alpha hunter.I don't shoot yearlings but I'm far from a trophy hunter.I'm a regular person with average skills and less time to hunt than most.I do find and kill deer on a consistant basis on public land in 2G but I don't do anything special.Most deer that I kill aren't all that far back in but I do hunt where I know deer should be be and sometimes the access may be thick or steep.I also rarely hunt the same spots from year to year because conditions and food sources change constantly up here.I don't think it's hard at all to be successful in this part of the state and I scratch my head wondering what all the complaining is about.If I can do it,anyone can.I also fully understand why we needed less deer around here.The habitat is crap for the most part and it wasn't going to get any better unless we drastically reduced the herd.Hunting is tougher today for alot of reasons but I fail to see it as the doom and gloom so many project.That sure as hell doesn't make me an alpha hunter.