davemhughes- My dad just won a brand new, still in the box, Knight Vision Stainless Barrel Black Powder Rifle tonight at a game club raffle. He already owns one so he is looking ot sell it. Please make an offer if you are interested. According to gun broker quote they retail brand new around $399. Let me know what you are looking to pay. I can send you pictures if you would like. Like I said it is brand new, warranty and papers included, never been fired....sounds like what your looking for.