Thanks. You cleared up alot of things with those last two posts. Sadly, I know more than a few self proclaimed QDM guys, and I can tell you that they leave a strong impression that it really IS al about harvesting bigger bucks, and they candy coat that fact with telling us all about the habitat, conservation, healthy deer herd, etc. In fact I count a couple of them as good friends, and eve turkey hnut with and fish with a few of them...but I just can't accept their mentality on deer hunting, and have turned down a few opportunities to hunt with them on "managed" private land. Call me odd or old fashioned (though I'm still a young buck like you), but I've always wanted my hunting to be as natural as possible. I like the idea of taking what the land gives you, not manipulating things to grow larger deer, or sitting on a "harvest" plot. Not that I don't apprecate a nice set of antlers, but I like 'em natural ( like some other things we guys tend to appreciate, lol) it would cheapen the experience to me if I knew the buck was fed on a bunch of supplements and high protein food plots. At this point in my hunting I often pass on legal deer, but I accept that whatever buck I decide to shoot was a natural product of the land, and not my own manipulation. Hunting is my way of geting back to the basics, and becoming a participant in nature. A predator. Not a beneficiary of my deer farming. And many of my most successful hunts ended with tag soup. There was the cool buck fight I saw last year on Nov 2. And the breeding party of seven bucks chasing a hot doe on the 11th.The gobbler that somehow knew that that last step would put him in front of my gun, and melted back into the brush. The flintlock hut with my six year old son that only produced some squirrel sightings, but priceless, great bonding time. That's what its all about.