Okay guys,Im going with 2 1/2 just because i've see his body,but you can't judge a deer by their rack where I hunt in East TN,I live up in the MTNS and we have very rock and sandy soil,pretty much no top soil at all and no ag fields..While we do produce some pretty good deer,its just not a common thing,while this is a little smaller than average they are bigger ones on average in the area,I'd say an average mature deer will go anywhere from 100-115 anything over that is considered huge in this area..