that is exactly the type of statement that we don't need made. I would probably guess that the vast majority of hunters or $$ spent on PA hunting is from what I would call a casual hunter. That type of rhetoric you spout BTB does nothing to bring a hunter who has other responsibilities in life like work and family that have to come before before a leisure time sport into the ranks of game management suporters. If anything you turn people off by your arrogance. Of course you have been a supporter of exclusion of certain hunting types all along.