Well, I see that everyone wants to bash the 30-30. Out with the old and in with the new, well not for me. I' ll stick with my THURTY-THURTY (30-30) and my .243 . I love the 30-30. You use what suits you, and I' ll use what suits me. The 30-30 will takes down a deer just as effectively as a 30-06, in the right conditions, becuase, I will admit, the 30-30 does have its limitations. No, its not a power-house, that can take down an elephant, but it' ll get the job done. I love my ' ol Winchester 94, it was my first rifle, though it is kinda hard to shoot with, I will never put down the 30-30, becuase iI just love the gun and the cartridge. I have a special " bond" with it, becuase its the first rifle that my dad gave me. I say, that if you know your shots are within 150 yards, and you have good eye-sight, go for the 30-30, or what ever YOU are comfortable with. I hunt with the 30-30 much, and I probably wont this season, becuase I have a Savage 110 in .243 . I can' t use the iron sights to good on that old 94 warhorse, so I have to go with a scope. I just had to put my 2 cents wirth in, because I am a strong advocate of the 30-30, though I' ve neer killed a deer with it. Down in the south, you metion 30-30, and everyone knows what you' re talking about[8D]