I love em! I started useing them last year,took 1 doe last year with it..This year took an 8pt and a 12pt with the FPB..I can easily get 1.5 inch groups at 100 yds all day long without swabing between shots..Thats 2 777 pellets,im sure if I switched to loose I could shrink them down,but who needs better than 1.5inch groups?? Not me..I'll post some pics of them when I get home from work tonight,i'll make a seperate thread..