I.e., the state of PA placed a higher value on commercial hardwoods, treehugging birdwatchers and ecoweenies placed a higher value on fulfilling an extremist dream of a level of biodiversity, that interestingly has never been documented to have existed in any period of known human history, and the hunters of course, place a higher value on the deer. Meanwhile, all opinions aside, science showed that our forests are / were very capable of sustaining deer at densities above 25 dpsm long term, with NO negative affects on herd health, and in fact the herd was continuing to grow until the onslaught of bonus tags, high allocations and combined seasons. Our forests suffer from several factors including poor forestry practices, acid rain, several prolonged drought periods in the last decade, and yes...the impact of deer as well. But, no one seems interested in changing anything else, other than reducing the deer.