Hunters are not entitled to a sustainable harvest of any species. If we were we would still have good pheasant hunting . The point I was making in my discussion with Doug is that hunters could in fact increase the harvest in 2G,short term, if they moved more and hunted harder and smarter. But, those harvests would not be sustainable ,since those harvests would exceed recruitment resulting in lower harvests in the future. Therefore, those harvests would not be sustainable.