Yea, 94 gr of H-1000 with 180 Accubonds. Heck of a load (~.50" @ 100 yrds) but just being honest. WAAAAAAAAAY too much for deer. Last season, shot a 125 lb doe at 322 yards, and penciled her. Of course the shock (or mere sound from the brake) dropped her on impact. So this year hunting the same farm, where shots can literally be as far as the eye can see, and what happens? Nice 8 point walks right up on me at 92 yards. tried to stay back on him but he was quartering. Hit some shoulder, and STILL penciled him. Im taking 2 guns next year to that spot. Anything under 200 yards is getting the 25-06.