I am shooting a CVA Optima Pro and the load is 110 grains of BH 209, 260 grain .451 Nosler HP. Hey Mike, Tyler got a nice doe on opening morning this year with his CVA Wolf shooting the same load as I'm shooting but only 90 grains of BH 209. It sure took a while to find what that gun liked but when we found that magic load........ Great to see ya Wabi!!!! I hope that all of you are doing well and are having a blesed new year. The old spine is still giving me a fit but I'm doing the best that I can and trusting in God to see me through. I will be seeing a pain management specialist at Duke University soon so maybe they can help some. It stays so wet here you can't get any range time in. I'm thinking about picking up a little something just to blow some powder through in the off season. Maybe another Wolf. Ya'll be good!!!!!!!!!