my 2.57' s really like Hornady 75gr moly hp' s, sitting on top of 47.8 gr of H380 in a winchester case and WLR primers. Should prove deadly for ground hogs. Sits right under 3500 fps. 2/3" grps. Haven' t tried any reloads for hunting season though I still have some Hornady Custom, 120 gr btsp, that averages 1" grps. IMR 4350 looks to be promising in deer weight bullets.