Originally Posted by
sabotloader
spaniel
I think the copper shotgun slugs are these Remington's and they are just a type 50 cal barnes like bullets in a sabot in the shotgun shell...
http://www.remington.com/products/am...bot-slugs.aspx
Copper. Tight-fitting, 8 fingered sabot. Centerfire round precision. Nose expands to over 2X cal. dia.. 5 rounds/box, 20 boxes/case
The 12 gauge Core-Lokt Ultra sabot bullet is a .50 caliber, 385 grain HP semi-spitzer. The catalog MV is 1900 fps and the 100 yard velocity is 1648 fps. The ME is given as 3086 ft. lbs. and the remaining energy at 100 yards is 2325 ft. lbs. The trajectory of that load looks like this: +1.8" at 50 yards, +2.4" at 100 yards, and +/- 0" at 150 yards.
The 20 gauge sabot bullet weighs 260 grains. It also has a MV of 1900 fps, and its velocity at 100 yards is given as 1615 fps. The ME is 2084 ft. lbs., and the remaining energy at 100 yards is 1506 ft. lbs. The trajectory of that load looks like this: +2.0" at 50 yards, +2.7" at 100 yards, and +/- 0" at 150 yards.
I know, I've shot them and the Barnes Expanders which are kinda similar. Very big holes, a lot of meat damage. At least in my hands. MLers drop them just as fast with less meat damage and I never killed a deer I did not hit on the first shot so I just use the ML now.
I question the whole "centerfire precision" thing. It's a Herculean feat to shoot shotgun groups approaching what the fine gentlemen on this forum regularly post with their MLers.
After several years of hunting ML only when I went back to slug guns for a spell I found the overkill nature of the results a bit much for me. That's all I was trying to get at.