Well I passed on the 8mm Rem Mag. After looking at the .338 Win Mag more closely I see that I can load lite, 200 gr-220 gr bullets and not give up a noticeable differanace to the 8mm Mags velocity. Even though I do handload, sometimes I do not always have time to do so and the .338 Win has plenty of awesome factory loads for any game. Thanks for your help.