I happen to have a bunch here that came with my triumph along with the 260gr that came with the wolverine.Ron from buffalo bullet co,suggested the 270 ball-etts for a good light recoil deer load out to 100 yds.have also seen you mention them in various threads with positive results. the easier for her as far as loading and recoil the better.she shoots,but never a muzzleloader and is extremely excited about shooting her new prize.i didn't even dare to open it