akbound, Vapodog. Thanks for your input. I' m glad I found a solid hunting forum. Looks like one of the best ways to learn this stuff. I hunt with a lot of experienced hunters, but we seem to never really go over this stuff when B.S.' ing at camp. I think all the guys just know what they like and since I' ve never had to buy my rifle I didn' t think about it. The two rifles I' ve usualy shot were heavy 30-06' s. They weren' t mine so I didn' t have to sight them in and only shot them three-four times, always at Elk. When its going down live and the adrenaline' s going, I never even thought about the recoil. Learned how to aim and shoot with smaller deer rifles. Anyways, thanks.