I really like this forum and my hats off to the moderaters that spend so much thankless time. I think most of the guys here argue in good fun and poke fun most of the time. Heck i have 4 different brands and find good and bad in each one. I gave up on some forums as they get too hateful. Just enjoy what you shoot and take the faults of others with a grain of salt. I bet most here have more than one brand. Kind of like bullets and powder. Each enjoys something different. I do get helpful hints from a lot of guys here even though i have used ML for many years. Never too old to learn. thanks guys