Well, I must say I agree with you MeanV but I put some conditions on it. My very best friend and the person I enjoy hunting with the most (son's aren't old enough to hunt yet ) is one of my father's old hunting partner's son, that I grew up hunting with and he's like the little brother I never had. I tought him how to bowhunt (our dad's hunted EVERTYHING that flies and most everything else except for deer) so I taught him to bowhunt and bass fish and to this day I try to help teach him how to be a better man. (I'm 35 and he's 29). I enjoy hunting with him more than anyone else and for the most part I just hunt alone (he lives about 2 hours away) and it's getting to be more so with every year that goes by; I become more of a loner. In part I bellieve it's because of my growing passion for killing big bucks and that can be a lonely lifestyle when you are hunting where there aren't many. Which, is kind of sad. Now, with all that being said, my friend doesn't bring much of anything but his friendship to the table. He is a warm loveable guy that you can't help but love. But I have been paying his way since he was little and still do so much of the time (don't mind doing so cause he's like blood and I have always been better off than him financially) he is frequently late and not exactly the picture of dependability. He is an excellent outdoorsman in all regards. But eventhough he is one of my favorite people to be around and to hunt with, I still don't invite him on my out of state whitetail trips. I would love to share one of those camps with him one of these days. But, he is just too undependable to make plans with a year in advance and stake that kind of hunt, time, and money on. Most of my other hunting relationsships are much more equitable but we have all quit hunting together as much because we are all trying and succeeding at killing big bucks and we have gotten more and more secretive with each other and only 2 of my best 4 hunting buddies even know that I killed a 144 7/8 this year here close where I live and because I don't want anyone to know where I killed him because I just found the spot and plan to hunt and kill big bucks out of it for the next several years. Two of the tem both killed really nice bucks this year as well and I don't where they killed their deer were killed. Unfortunately, it's just a part of hunting big bucks. It's like fishing. The best fisherman, never tell you where they are catching them......that's why they catch them! It's just part of my hunting transition and those of my hunting partner's. Mine's all starting to change and gonna do a 180 because I have a 7 mnth old and another that will be here in 4 mnths. and when they get to be 5 and 6 all the big buck crap will go out the window and it will be all about them!!!! Sorry to thread jack!