I shot two deer in N.Y with barnes Ex. I hit the Doe 80y in the neck shoulder joint, exited far side rib. Great blood trail. 50y run for the 1rst deer, 35y for the 2nd. shot deer ran 30 y no blood. p.s. my gun hang-fired, but the shooting sticks' held it steady, lifted my head off stock to look at hammer, gun finally fired and hit deer behind shoulder, amazed me. N.Y. has tracking dogs, great service.