Yippers, Matt I couldn't agree with you more, There is an obvious reason why the bows with longer risers and short angled limbs kick less.

I am not taking a shot at you or at Bow Tech I am simply stating the facts that I experienced when the opportunity came for me to shoot the product. I think I was disappointed because the previous year when I visited at length with John Strasheim and asked him what made his bow better than a Mathews, he explained that the tolerances on his bow were the best in the industry, they were the quietest, fastest, etc. etc. and in a side by side test they would put Mathews to shame. A year later I had the opportunity to do that at the Amo show. I can't address the tolerances, didn't have my micrometer on me, but in every catagory other than speed, the Mathews bows (I didn't shoot the Q2XL in the comparison) were more pleasant to shoot. Again I am just saying that for me personally that is what I found, someone else may arrive at a different conclusion.

I don't believe there was a Pro 38 in their stable at that time. As previously mentioned I look forward to shooting the Pro 38 and the Patriot. They both look like something I would like.