About 2 years ago, my buddy asked me to go and pick up his treestand, it had been in a yellow pine for about a year. I took my quad up to where it was, and I kept walking around saying "I know that stand was right here someplace"! Then, I looked on the ground, and found his stand, smashed underneath that pine. I guess treestands are not like cats, they just don't land correctly when the tree falls.