DEHUNTER, the area im talkjing about is on the north side, havent scouted the south side yet as much as i need to. i did kick up two nice bucks in velvet last year on the south side but never went back for lack of scouting. I talked to an older guy last year and he said the same thing u did about the area across from lums. Also had a game warden tell me the same ( when he chased me down while i was post season scouting, thought i was hunting like some other people he had just caught). i scouted that same area also and saw the same. if you decide to hunt there you should park where you vehicle cant be seen, so other people who dont want to do the leg work dont horn in on you. i havent seen any other bow hunters out yet where ive been hunting. lums has been getting hammered the last couple years ,i think because of all the new houses going up in the area. i think eventually that will have a lottery for that park also. lemond, i know the area you are talking about, i had permssion to hunt the farm that was just on the other side when i first started hunting, but there are houses there now. im hunting fairly close to that now, and that is one places on the list. havent hunted that yet though, but i think,if i rember right,there are some decent trees there.