I just wanted to point something out that Bryan touched on. The bucks at valley forge are perrenial under-achievers when it comes to antler growth; and the deer are extremely overpopulated. The study I provided by Ozoga and Verme proved that antler growth will suffer when deer reach exceedingly high densities even when nutrition is not limiting. Put that in the context of VF when nutrition is limiting, and the effect of stress becomes even more pronounced.