"Your missing something here bud, let me help you out. It dosen't matter what the average dpsm is for an entire wmu when we're talking about the effect of stress in specific situations."

Was speaking of the fact that the deer densities as stated by pgc arent even close to the extreme example you cited. As for your point, i have no issue at the moment.

"Sidenote: I find it comical that your avatar equates the PGC to a dog's bowel movement,"

Actually that was meant to be a dog placing that bowel movement atop the initials, which i believe well represents current hunters thoughts toward the agency. But i guess i have no problem with the "art" being open to interpretation either. lol

" yet you're using their data to support your point."

Its moreso that im pointing out that it doesnt support the "supporters" points and pgcs own claims, which is even more important. Whether I believe it or not doesnt make much difference. Because even If a person believes the data, it doesnt support the deer program. If a person does not believe it then NOTHING supports the deer program. Its pretty hard to justify the current extreme program and point to sound science under either scenario.