Pike, I was not trying to insinuate that you have not reached out to educational resources, just that you have gained more from your personal observations. My apologies if it came off as otherwise.

As far as the "Pigeons" go LOL, they hoisted the cup while the Flyboys cried in their beer. The Flyers need to fix their goaltending issues if they want to go anywhere this year. Then again Carcillo will probably take so many penalties Carter and Richards will be exhausted by playoffs again.

Glew, I definitely agree that stress plays a part in antler development. BTW, I haven't forgotten about contacting you, it will just have to be after the holidays. Way too much going on.

Valley Forge should only be used as an example of how not to manage for deer. I spend quite a bit of time in and around the park and the bucks that are there are definitely short of their genetic potential. You will see bucks in the park that are 4.5+ years old and only in the 120" range if that. You go to the outlying areas of the park and the 3.5s are P&Ys and better. They have fewer does to compete with for food and despite being in a suburban environment have less stress factors from humans even though they can be hunted in some areas.