Thanks for the help, i checked out the martin saber and martin bengal. I also went to my local archery shop and checked out the bear charge i was impressed with the new design. So i decided to come back and make sure i couldnt find it for a better price. I went to bass pro shop, they didnt have it so i saw the 2009 Diamond Stud package on clearance. It was 100$ cheaper then i found on many other websites. It was a bow i was interested in, in the the past. I decided that thats what i was going to buy. I will let you guys know if i like the diamond stud. Also anyone else have this bow and what do you think about it?