Define wilderness please. If you, or granddad, took efforts to reduce the frequency of the natural rate of fire occurrance, predator populations...it ain't true wilderness, according to some.

I've heard some antis extend the actions of native Americans running buffalo over buffalo jumps, as man-made and therefore cheating...cheating because the buffs didn't understand that a cliff meant they'd fall to their death. WTH?

What gets me, is that our ancient ancestors (wherever they lived) were able to prosper with only primitive weapons and techniques...Does it make what hunters do, with modern tools & equipment, any easier? To me, no.

For those antis use the "not needed for food" argument, I ask how much of the food they ate in the previous year they raised or harvested. A few can answer, but many will give you a look of abject horror. "What?! Me in the wild?! Are you crazy?"...I admit it, I'd die in pure wilderness too. At least I know how to make a fire w/o matches..