I guees this is my way to sum it up. I think social stress from overpopulation and breeding stress are related. Here's the scenario; we have an over populated herd, with a limited number of antlered bucks. Those bucks are getting stressed because there's so many doe (see the reasearch article I posted on the previous page concerning social stress). To alleviate that stress we can do two things: increase the number of bucks so that stress gets shared by a larger number of individuals,. and/or reduce the number of does so that less have to be bread by the limited number of bucks.

Phew, I think that was the best way I've explained my thought process so far....Did that make more sense thean the way I've been explaining it?