I have to agree on Jim Shockey. Especially since he does guide people.

Very interesting comments so far.

What are your thoughts on "The Bucks of Tecomate" show? I was reading about how they grow them that big and it sounded like they fenced it in. The El Cazador(?) ranch or whatever it is. They sure grow some monsters in any case.

The leased land we hunt has been like heaven after hunting public land for most of my life. I've had 2-3 nice bucks come out together and seen some "Tecomate" size bucks but couldn't get a shot. We had one on the land this year at least 24" inside spread and huge rack. No one got a chance at him but was seen by the neighbor on our side of the small stream so he was there somewhere. The neighbors and ourselves pass up small bucks and when the doe population is down (like now) pass up does also. The area being hunted definitely can make someone more successful. Here's a pic of the buck that was taken right in front of my stand the year before I got in on the lease (four years ago). The first two years I got a 9 point (17" spread on both) buck off the land each year. And the last two years I've been passing them that size and smaller wanting a chance at some of the big guys roaming the land. In all my years I've never before passed on a buck when hunting public land.