I was in open timber all hardwoods and I saw 3 does, so I walked closer to them, and they didn't spook and it was impossable to keep quiet, so I just figured I'd walk and see what would happen, they kept looking at me but all they would do is just look at me then turn their head and keep feeding, they never spooked they more were just scared from the noise, and you wouldn't believe how much movement I can get away with in a stand. I've noticed a serious difference in using ap and using ultimate camo.

Ryan.