way, way down here in New Jersey. Reasons are, that for the last 12 plus years the state allowed in most of the state hunters to take unlimited antleless deer with the bow, muzzleloader and shotgun (they added crossbows this year) and the hunts start as early as 2nd or 3rd Saturday in September and ends in mid Febuary, they also allow hunting over bait. The hunters with 15 years and less here in NJ feel the state is doing a hell of a job, little do they know that the herd was in great numbers with some big bucks, the bucks are bigger these days. I don't blame these hunters I blame the state, cause they aren't looking at the herd for there well being or for the hunters hunt, they are looking at making money. Of course the bears and coyotes are out of hand and they are killing the deer herd off