I think too many people are trying to shoot too heavy a powder load out of most muzzle loaders. Hunted with them for 10 years and never shot over 110 grains and get a deer every single year. It really isn't a long range weapon. Part of the skill is getting close enough. Some blame the bullet on the poor blood trail but isn't the case most of the time. I shot two this year from the ground and was a clear pass though the vitals but not one drop of blood as they bleed inside the chest until they drop. If you are shooting down from a treestand then it is different but sometimes even then if it isn't a complete pass though they also bleed inside. Too many people are willing to blame the bullet on a bad shot placement. If you want to shoot 150 grains and shoot 200 yds then don't use the powerbelt. They didn't get so popular by not working. I am going back to them after lots of other bullets and see how it works with loose powder and 80 grains. Like the idea of a full bore size projectile. Lot of us are guilty of saying heck i use the pellets as it is easier and don't want to spend the time working up a proper load. When all we had was black powder that is what we did for each differnt rifle and bullet we shot. They all have a sweet spot where they shoot best. Never going to get a one powder load and bullet for every gun. Bullets are like guns and never going to have everybody agree that one is better. Shoot whatever works for you and have a good time.