Of course lanse. But this is the only one to go so severe and for so long, have such a high level of hunter disgust, have the deer management leader need to wear bullet proof vests in public, have the agency sued by state sportsmens group, force audit, have fee increase being prevented, have known "unfriendlies" involved in the management.... etc. This clearly isnt just another average run o' the mill deer management issue.

You MIGHT be able to look at another state somewhere, historically and point to one or two of the "lesser" issues where their may have been a similarity or two...But nothing even close to this. This is the effect of improper management. No bones about it. The situation in Pa is extreme and nothing the likes of which has ever been seen. Most states simply dont permit it to happen, just as "shissler" found out, most states dont support nonhunter friendly issues like striving for use of birth control....Other than pa and Jersey of course, at least thats all im aware of.

Look at Wisconsin. Those guys arent even close to our situation overall, yet there are dnr employees being fired and talk of cleaning house. I think those are fine examples of appropriate actions given the circumstances.