BTBowhunter, I see what you are saying. But that is part of my point, down here in the Mon Valley there is so much hunting pressure and I (my family) have a piece of land that is posted but adjoins unposted properties. If some people were sportsman and would respect posted signs and stay off that property it wouldn't be bad. But some people can't read I guess. I don't know much of the Allegheny Valley but I do know that on opening day of rifle this year I along with my dad and a friend we hunted our property and only heard 5 or 6 shots among the 3 of us. Do you think that it could be some of these WMU's need to be changed or adjusted a bit? A friend of mine hunts near Raccoon State Park every year and on opening day he never even saw a deer. I also understand that it depends what property you hunt, but are there really that many deer that they need to put out 68,000 doe tags for 2B? I did just notice on the PGC website that 5C there are far more doe tags but that is the only WMU that sells more than 2B at 113,000(don't quite understand that but I have never been there and I know nothiung about that area). Possibly 2B could be split in half from the Allegheny/Washington County line? I do not know as I am not a specialist in these arreas. But then again alot ofpeople would most likely say that the specialists don't know either...