I sincerely believe the those thin wall shafts are directly responsible for carbons overly inflated reputation for durability. In comparison to those flying beer cans, carbon is indestructable.

But some carbon is just as bad, if not worse, than XX78' s for group tuning. I' m not much of a robin hooder. From the time I got first one till I got my 8th one took nearly 4 years. (YEAH, only two a year. I was shooting stickbows, alright?!?! Let me see you robin hood a 2219 with a cedar arrow at 45 yards using a longbow.) A few years back I started playing with GoldTips and found out that little set screw in the nocks makes a perfect guide right down the shaft. 5 robin hoods in one month. Only 2 arrows left out of a dozen. Thought they were wonderful arrows till I started trying to shoot broadheads on the blasted things.

And AC type shafts are not an option for me. Even if the price wasn' t a wallet strangler, the raw shafts are too short to make arrows out of.