"some guys that just like to ruffel feathers" and Lee has become one of them. Start to see too many "I didn't mean it THAT way" or "I have nothing against" but always a TC fanboy and you kind of get the idea that Lee likes to poke the fire a little now and then.

Gather up 10 randomly picked TC Encores and 10 randomly picked White Super91s or even 97s and fire test loads with heavy conicals of the right size for each. I don't think there is much doubt the Whites would win such a match with ease.

And the Whites will be easier to clean up properly afterward.

My first Encore would not keep conicals nor anything else inside a bushel basket at 50 yards. And that is the truth.