what i meant was one single class not two seperate. in the past for instance while hunting you could shoot a slug which is a single projectile and not need to take a seperate rifle course. muzzleloader is a single projectile (except for shotgun types for small game) i didnt need the state to show me how to operate it. if you hunt rifle in maine, pennsylvania, or new york and buy a hunting liscense they only ask for your hunting liscense and no extra rifle certification because its covered in there courses all in one so i cant understand why other than CHARGING~! for an extra rifle permit they would still seperate the shotgun from the rifle. [X(] you can tell the state feels guilty about this because they designed the rifle permit so we only have to purchase it every 2 years. thats supposed to make us feel better[] so lets stay united jersey hunters and keep PAYING AND PAYING AND PAYING.