thanks guys. ive been sittin in the woods for countless hours hoping to see something, and all i see is squirrels. i was ready to give up on this deer thing this year and just go shoot birds. though i havent fell in water or locked my keys in my car, this is encouraging because all i hear about is the successes and not any of these real life moments. ive only seen on buck i couldnt get a shot on, and now i know im not the only one getting skunked