Here's a report on Feds topped with Barnes Triple Shox.. The hole through the deer doesn't look any different than the ones with 270 130 core lokts, 140 core lokts, 280 core lokts, 150 30-30's, 150 30-06 WW, 7mm-08 130 or 140 7x57. All deer were dead when I found them. Not one was deader than the other. Why the $60 box of ammo? Dunno.... wife read something about lead fragments, kids, and deer meat and asked me to change. I deer usually last us about a year, so in 18 years I'll try something else.