taha. well welcome! I only use a climber on my property. I love it because you can get any tree on any trail or bedding area, etc.... I mean whos gonna build a shooting house right in a bedding area???? So I like it for that. I don't go to high either maybe 12-15 ft. My brother will go up 20-25 but Hes just stupid. We should probally where safety harness's but there a pain in the a$$ to me. To bulky. Hard to move around in.