Ok, thats the hunters side of the story, there are two sides. i have read reviews from camps i was in as a guide a few years ago, and they completely misrepresented and disorted the camp to a point of completely lying. It is my personal expierence in the camps i have been in that the hunters are the problem almost all the time, not always, but mostly. There are certainly crooked outfitters, but there are more dishonest hunters then outfitters.