Yes, sir, read below from your prior post:
Busted? LOL! Maybe your meaning wasn't clear.
I can understand why you would say that
mon frère, my Canadian hunting brother, BUT most people are not you. From what I see, the majority of magnum users at the range are not adept with their weapon, ie, lacking sufficient accuracy for the longer ranges the magnums are capable of. You have to keep the post in perspective too. Like I mentioned, the original poster did mention this will be his "treestand" gun... and I talked about that earlier. I was also under the wrong impression that he was a rookie and asking about magnum and larger calibers from the get-go are not the best of recommendations from my experience starting shooters off. I also realize if one is going to be doing a broadside shot in the boiler room, no matter the caliber size, no meat is going to be wasted, unless there's severe bullet fragmentation... then I've seen some crazy stuff.
Your last part of that quote "
...as long as he can shoot it!"
Like I've said for the third time here, many people don't shoot magnums well. Might as well say the obvious... it's because of the louder sound and recoil. It's hard to bare down on a spot at the bench over and over without starting to get some sort of recoil complex... hence the term "flinch", etc. Many people don't have muzzle brakes on their magnums either. They should. Anything they can do to tame the recoil down so they don't develop some sort of shooting complex, is a huge plus. Also, because too many men have egos, not many are going to step up and say their magnum rifle is too much for them. Of course all the magnum rifle shooters here can shoot the wings off a fly at a hundred yards. LOL!
**** NO!
(heck)
At many of my posts I've revealed being at the ranges experiencing not only my shooting, but LACK of shooting skill from others. I've seen TOO MANY times where guys with magnum calibers shouldn't be shooting deer with their gun! They can barely hit a small plate at a 100 yards! I myself just the other day was hitting shiny paper staples in the backstop at 100 yards with my .22 magnum. If you add the shooter's already lack of skill with their magnum along with the pucker factor they're experiencing because of the excitement adrenaline rush of the deer in front of them, this is a recipe for a miss or even worse, a wound. Don't forget to add the complex of the recoil that is in the back of their mind too. Also, I should qualify the marine seal's shooting credentials by saying if anyone here wants a money match with him, his answer is always the same... "I'll take that bet." When he was competing, he fired literally thousands of rounds practicing his craft, so he does know how to shoot a little. I will also add the last time we shot together, my groups were tighter than his. He and his -06 and me with my .260.(factory loads, slight wind, 100 yards sighting for deer) The nature of his experience has nothing to do with the bruising he had on his shoulder. The point is... he fired 12 rounds with his 30-06 and that evening had a horrendous black and blue spot because of shooting it! LOL! Not one single person here can tell me that recoil he will feel just prior to each shot is not in his mind! Especially after you start getting into more shots! The recoil force of a 30-06 with a 220gr. bullet has almost the identical recoil of a 300 Win Mag with 150gr. bullets. Not many people can bare down on 1" black dots at the range due to these larger recoil forces and be accurate enough to accomplish MOA groups. And if you're going to utilize a magnum rifle's long distance potential, like at 500yds+, then in my opinion, SUB MOA groups @ 100 yards are mandatory! I don't know many guys that can shoot sub-moa @ 100 with their magnum. Matter of fact, I don't group well out that far unless I use roll-your-owns because factory loads don't cut it. I get vertical variance with factory at long range.
So YES, I am not a big fan of the larger magnums because most people don't shoot their potential due to the recoil complexes and flinches that goes along with shooting them. It's not that they can't, it's that they don't. They don't because they don't use a good enough recoil pad, muzzle brake and they don't practice enough at the range. Get Billy-Bob a magnum, some Walmart shells and he's good to go.
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