Just curious what loads are you guys useing in your 30-30's? and also what kind of groups do you get at 100yds with it.I never did bother with shooting groups with my guns until a few years ago,i'd just get a steady rest and just sight it in that way,but now im useing a gun vise when shooting them in,so I can get them as accurate as possible.And im shooting winchester 150gr powerpoints in my 30-30 and I shot a 100 yd group (ranged) and I was getting like 2.5 inch group,maybe 3 inch..My 30-06 will put winchester 180gr powerpoints in .5 inch groups or less at 100 yds,it really shoots them well.I know each gun is different,but is this to be expected out of the 30-30? Or should it be shooting tighter groups.I know its plenty of accurate enough to kill a deer,but i'd like to shrink the groups down,think im gonna try the hornadyleverlution ammo..