You guys got that right. I can't remember a more frustrating Rut here in VA. I actually saw a buck breeding a doe on Oct. 29 and then my father-in-law took a nice buck on Halloween. That buck was bedded down with a doe and jumped up when I walked past. He went the wrong direction. Since then not much at all. I am guessing that maybe things will heat up the week of the 2oth if the weather cooperates. So much for the rest of this week with the rain.